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TED: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," FEMA DENIES A DISASTER AID APPEAL AFTER DEVASTATING FLOODS IN THE GLOBE-MIAMI AREA LAST YEAR.

>>> ALSO TONIGHT, A STUDY SHOWS MOST CITIES AND COUNTRIES ARE NOT PREPARED FOR INCREASINGLY DANGEROUS EXTREME HEAT.

>>> AND WE'LL HEAR ABOUT NEW TECHNOLOGY DESIGNED TO PROTECT PETS IN HOUSE FIRES.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

NEARLY 10 MONTHS AFTER DEVASTATING FLOODS IN THE GLOBE-MIAMI AREA, FEMA OFFICIALLY REJECTED ARIZONA'S MAJOR DISASTER DECLARATION.

THE DENIAL LEAVES THESE COMMUNITIES ABOUT $120 MILLION SHORT OF FUNDING, THE ESTIMATED REPAIR COSTS.

JOINING US IS MAYOR AL GAMEROS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WE APPRECIATE HAVING YOU HERE.

LET'S START WITH THE FLOODING LAST YEAR IN GLOBE AND MIAMI.

HOW SERIOUS WAS THIS?

WAS IT ONE STORM?

A SUCCESSION OF STORMS?

WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR?

>> I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF RECAP WHAT HAPPENED THE NIGHT OF THE 25th OF SEPTEMBER IN GLOBE.

WE HAD SEVERAL STORMS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, AND THEN THAT NIGHT, OR THE NIGHT BEFORE, IT SET OVER THE TOWN OF MIAMI WEST OF US, AND THEY RECEIVED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND THE VERY NEXT DAY AROUND 6:30, 7:00 AT NIGHT, THAT STORM SAT RIGHT OVER GLOBE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE DEVASTATING FLOODING.

SOME SAY IT'S ABOUT 125, 130-YEAR EVENT THAT WENT THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY, BRINGING WATER DOWN AND OVERRUNNING OUR CREEKS, OUR BRIDGES, AND REALLY DOING SOME DENTAL ON OUR NORTH END OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE WATER CAME FROM BEHIND OVERRAN THE CREEK FROM BEHIND THE BUILDINGS AND BLEW OUT THE FRONTS OF BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN AND THOSE AREAS.

ON THE SOUTH SIDE, IT OVERRAN THOSE WEEKS AND DAMAGED SEVERAL RESIDENCES ALONG THE CREEK BED.

DEVASTATED THAT AREA TOO.

TED: I SEEM TO RECALL THREE DEAD, OVER $100 MILLION IN DAMAGE?

>> EXACTLY.

IN OUR CITY, WE HAD TWO DEATHS.

TWO INDIVIDUALS DRIVING DOWNTOWN WHEN THE WATER OVERRAN IN THE CREEKS.

THIRD DEATH OCCURRED THE NIGHT BEFORE IN MIAMI, WEST THEY WERE DRIVING AND WERE SWEPT DOWN.

THIS WATER BROUGHT DOWN, WE TOOK OUT 66 VEHICLES OUT OF CREEKS.

WE TOOK OUT ABOUT 1,000 LARGE PROPANE TANKS WASHED OUT OF A FACILITY SOUTH OF GLOBE IN THE COUNTY AREA, AND IT WAS QUITE A BIT OF WATER THAT CAME THROUGH.

TED: MAJOR DISASTER DECLARATION HERE.

WHAT WAS YOUR -- HOW DID YOU PRESENT YOUR CASE TO THE FEDS?

WHAT DID YOU TELL THEM, AND HOW COULD THEY DENY THIS?

WHAT WAS THE REASONING THEY GAVE YOU FOR THE DENIAL?

>> WELL, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WENT IN, OR THE ORIGINAL DENIAL OCCURRED ON DECEMBER 23, AND DEADLINE FOR INITIAL APPLICATION WAS DECEMBER 28, BUT THEY ALREADY DENIED US PRIOR TO THAT TIME FRAME.

SO AS SOON AS THEY DENIED IT, GOVERNOR HOBBS FILED AN APPEAL WITH IT, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND UP TO THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, FEMA VISITED OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE WALKED THE CREEKS WITH THEM, THREE DIFFERENT TIMES.

ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS CAME.

IN SO MUCH REQUIREMENT, SO MUCH PAPERWORK THAT THEY REQUIRED AND WE SATISFY ALL THAT.

WHAT WE DID RECEIVE WAS A LETTER SENT TO GOVERNOR HOBBS AND IT WAS FORWARDED TO US, AND THE ONLY EXPLANATION WE HAVE IN THE LETTER FOR FEMA IS THAT IT DID NOT MEET THE SEVERITY OF THE MAGNITUDE.

THIS EVENT DIDN'T MEET ENOUGH TO REQUIRE A FEDERAL DECLARATION.

TED: DID IT SEEM TO INDICATE AS WELL THAT MAYBE THE STATE COULD HAVE OR SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE?

>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE INDICATING THAT LOCAL RESOURCES AND STATE RESOURCES WERE SUFFICIENT FOR THAT.

AS WE GOT THE STATE DECLARATION, WE WERE AWARDED 75% REIMBURSEMENT, MEANING IT STILL COST OUR CITY 25% FOR WHATEVER DAMAGE TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PROJECTS.

IF WE GOT THE FEMA DECLARATION, IT WOULD GIVE US ADDITIONAL 15% AND DROPPING OUR MATCH TO 10% WHICH IS HUGE FOR US.

TED: TALK ABOUT THAT.

WHAT WOULD THE MONEY HAVE BEEN USED FOR?

>> WE WERE AWARDED FEDERAL FUNDING IN FIRST PROJECT PHASE 1 AND 2, AND THE PRIORITY IS TO GET SEDIMENT OUT OF THE WATER WASTE AND MAKE SURE WE BUILD CAPACITY TO PROTECT FOR THE NEXT RAIN.

WE WERE AWARDED $24 MILLION.

$3 MILLION FOR JUST ENGINEERING, THAT'S 2.8 MILES OF CREEK WITHIN OUR OWN CITY.

THE COUNTY HAS MONEY THEY WERE AWARDED AND THE TOWN OF MIAMI, TOO.

$3 MILLION WAS FORGIVABLE, $25.1 MILLION IS MONEY WE DON'T HAVE.

WE GOT A REPORT THIS LAST WEEK, WE REMOVED 34,000 CUBIC YARDS OF DIRT FROM THE CREEKS.

THEY ARE ABOUT 90% COMPLETE, WHICH IS HUGE FOR US, AND STAGE TWO IS TO STABILIZE WALLS ALONG THE WEEK WALL WITH LARGE ROCK AND MAKING SURE THEY THOSE DON'T WASH OUT IN THE TURNS THAT GO THROUGH THE CITY.

TED: I WAS GOING TO ASK IS THE BIGGER NEED RECOVERY OR PREVENTION?

>> IT'S BOTH.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN PREVENTION.

WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THE WATER FROM OVERCOMING OUR WATERWAYS BY REMOVING THE SEDIMENT.

OUR NEXT STEPS, WE GOT MANY PROJECTS, OUR NEXT STEP IS REPAIR OF OUR SEWER LINES, THEY RUN IN THE WATERWAYS, AND WE HAVE DAMAGE AND THOSE WERE IN THE AMOUNT AROUND $36 MILLION.

OUR REQUEST IN DECEMBER WAS FOR $96 MILLION JUST FOR OUR CITY.

NOT THE TOWN OF MIAMI AND NOT THE COUNTY.

SO THAT WAS OUR DAMAGE, SO THIS IS THE STUFF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH MONEY IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

TED: HOW DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?

HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE STATE ABOUT THAT?

>> WE HAVE, THE STATE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD IN COOPERATING WITH THEM.

RIGHT NOW, WITH THE REPORT WE GOT FROM THE COMPANY WE HIRED WHICH IS TIFFANY CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE ABOUT $10 MILLION OF THAT $21 MILLION SPENT.

THAT'S A $2.5 MILLION MATCH.

WHAT THE GOVERNORS DID IN THE 4.8, $2.8 BILLION BUDGET, THEY ALLOCATED $10 MILLION TO GILA COUNTY.

MIAMI GOT 2.5, WE GOT 2.5.

THE 2.5 WE ALREADY RECEIVED.

THAT'S GOING FOR THE INITIAL 10 MILLION THAT WE SPENT IN THE INITIAL PROJECT.

TED: LAST QUESTION, MAYOR, AND SOUNDS LIKE THINGS ARE ON THEIR WAY.

THE FEMA THING COULD HAVE HELPED IMMENSELY, BUT THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD.

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM RESIDENTS OF GLOBE ABOUT ALL OF THIS?

>> YOU KNOW, AND I'LL GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS AMAZING WHAT OUR COMMUNITY AND THE RESILIENCE AND THE RECOVERY THAT TOOK PLACE.

THE CLEANUP, THE AMOUNT CLEANUP THAT TOOK PLACE AND HOW FAST IT WAS DONE, AND THE MONEY THAT BUSINESS PEOPLE PUT BACK IN TO GET BACK OPEN.

ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE OPEN PRIOR TO THE FLOOD ARE OPEN NOW.

TED: VERY GOOD.

>> WE STILL HAVE BUILDINGS THAT WERE NOT OPEN, THEY WERE JUST VACANT, BUT THEY HAVE DAMAGE TO THEM STILL.

TED: THAT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR.

MAYOR AL GAMEROS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE UPDATE FROM GLOBE, AND BEST OF LUCK.

THANK YOU, SIR?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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TED: TEMPERATURES IN ARIZONA REACH DANGEROUS LEVELS IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, A NEW STUDY SUGGESTS THE DRY HEAT CAN POSE THE SAME THREATS AS HOT AND HUMID HEATWAVES WHICH RUN COUNTER TO CONVENTIONAL THOUGHT.

WE WELCOME JENNIFER VANOS, SENIOR GLOBAL SCIENTIST AT ASU.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

TED: EXTREME HEAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THE RESULTS OF THIS WAS CITIES, COUNTIES, TOWNS, COUNTRIES, WE'RE NOT PREPARED FOR, THIS ARE WE?

>> NOT REALLY, AND SOME PLACES LIKE PHOENIX ARE BETTER PREPARED THAN OTHER PLACES, WE HAVE MUCH HIGHER HEAT TO DEAL WITH HERE, AND IN GENERAL, WHAT WE'VE SEEN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA AND EUROPE IS THERE'S A LOT OF PLACE NOT PREPARED TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE HEAT.

TED: ARE WE UNDERESTIMATING THE DANGERS OF EXTREME HEAT?

>> YEAH, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE UNDERESTIMATE IT WHETHER IT'S FOR THE POPULATION OR THEMSELVES, AND A LOT OF OUR RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE WITHIN MY GROUP AT ARIZONA STATE HAS BEEN TRYING TO BETTER MODEL WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BODY IN HUMID HEAT OR DRY HEAT BY USING PHYSIOLOGICAL PRINCIPLES IN THE COMMON MODELS TO OVERCOME SOME OF THE SIMPLIFIED ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE PUT INTO THE THRESHOLDS THAT JUST ASSUME EVERY PLACE AND EVERYONE RESPONDS THE SAME.

TED: INTERESTING, INTERESTING, BEFORE WE GET FURTHER, DEFINE EXTREME HEAT?

>> THAT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU LIVE, AND THE KIND OF CLIMATE YOU DEAL WITH.

HEAT THAT WE DEFINE AS EXTREME IN PHOENIX IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN HOW CHICAGO WOULD DEFINE EXTREME HEAT, AND THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE WAY IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE BEHAVIORALLY ACLIMATEIZED, PHYSIOLOGICALLY ACLIMATEIZED.

TED: TALK ABOUT THE HUMIDITY, SUNLIGHT, WIND, DURATION OUT IN THE HEAT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS FACTOR IN, DON'T THEY?

>> THEY ALL FACTOR IN.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRY TO FULLY ACCOUNT FOR IN HEAT LIMIT.

LOOKING AT ADAPTABILITY LIMITS, AND WHAT IS SURVIVABLE IN THE FUTURE AND WE LOOKED AT PAST HEATWAVES.

WE LOOKED AT JULY 2023, 31-DAY EVENT WHERE WE HAD EVERY DAY ABOVE 110.

THAT WAS VERY DRY HEAT.

A LOT OF MODELS SAY THAT'S NOT DANGEROUS TO THE HUMAN BODY.

WHEN YOU ACCOUNT FOR PEOPLE SWEATING, ESPECIALLY THE LACK OF SWEATING AS YOU AGE, IT IS VERY DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY COOL IN THE HOT, DRY CONDITIONS BY SWEATING.

TED: BY WATER IN GENERAL, SWEAT IN PARTICULAR HERE.

SO WHEN YOU DON'T SWEAT AND IT'S 110, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

>> THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM, AND SO, AND WE ALL ONLY CAN SWEAT SO MUCH, TOO.

SO OUR MODEL CAN ACCOUNT FOR THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT SWEAT WE CAN HAVE, AND SO WE NEED TO KNOW THAT AND AS WE AGE IT'S LESS, SO IF YOU CANNOT SWEAT ENOUGH OR YOU'RE IN REALLY DRY CONDITIONS, YOU CAN PUT WATER ON THE SKIN AND IT WILL EVAPORATE THE SAME WAY SWEAT WOULD.

TED: HOT AND HUMID, WE THINK HOT AND HUMID IS UTTERLY MISERABLE, THE WORST, A TERRIBLE THING.

YOU'RE SAYING SAME TEMPERATURE, DRY HEAT, NO SWEAT, NO WATER ON YOU, JUST AS DANGEROUS?

>> CAN BE JUST AS DANGEROUS IF YOU'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THE REASONS PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING.

HOT AND HUMID HEAT, THE REASON WE STRUGGLE IS THE SWEAT ON THE SKIN IS NOT EVAPORATING INTO THE ALREADY VERY HUMID ENVIRONMENT ABOVE IT, AND THEN IN HOT AND DRY HEAT, WE ARE SWEATING, WE DON'T ALWAYS NOTICE, IT BUT CAN ONLY SWEAT SO MUCH, AND SOMETIMES WE NEED MUCH MORE SWEAT TO OFFSET THE HEAT GAINED FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.

TED: ISN'T THAT INTERESTING?

>> YEAH.

TED: IT DOES RUN A LITTLE AFOUL OF FUNCTIONAL THOUGHT, DOESN'T IT?

>> IT DOES BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE SAY WE LOVE THE DRY HEAT.

BUT AS WE SEE, WE SEE A LOT OF DEATHS IN THE DESERT DUE TO HEAT, WHETHER IT'S DUE TO HEAT STROKE OR CARDIOVASCULAR DEATH, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO DIFFERENTIATE THOSE AS WELL, BUT WE CAN'T ASSUME THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S DRY HEAT THAT IT'S NOT DANGEROUS.

TED: TALK ABOUT INCREASING AGE AND THE DANGERS THERE.

>> YEAH, SO AS WE AGE, WE'RE NOT CREATING AS MUCH SWEAT FROM THE BODY.

AS WE ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN THE MODEL, PEOPLE WHO ARE 65 YEARS AND OLDER ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE A LOT MORE IN THE HEAT UNLESS THEY'RE DOING OTHER THINGS TO COOL OFF OR, FOR EXAMPLE, PUT WATER ON YOUR SKIN, THROUGH MISTING BOTTLES OR DOUSING YOUR CLOTHING AND THEN USING FANS, AND THAT CAN ACT AS SWEAT AND THEN YOU EVAPORATE IT AND CAN PREVENT DEHYDRATION.

TED: THIS IS ALL HAPPENING NOW AS GLOBAL TEMPERATURES ARE INCREASING.

SO THE FOCUS OF THIS RESEARCH WAS WHAT?

>> SO, THIS SPECIFIC RESEARCH, WE DEVELOPED THIS MODEL AND STARTED APPLYING IT TO SAY BASED ON THESE SIX BIG RECENT HEAT WAVES FROM MECCA AND SAUDI ARABIA TO PAKISTAN AND INDIA AND THE 2023 ONE IN PHOENIX, WE SAID WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF DEATHS THERE, IT WAS VERY HOT, VERY DIVERSE CLIMATE, WHAT DOES THE MODEL SAY?

IT SHOWS THE MODEL SAYS UNSURVIVABLE CONDITIONS WERE REACHED, THOUGH OTHER MODELS WOULD SAY THEY WEREN'T REACHED.

TED: INTERESTING.

>> BECAUSE WE'RE ACCOUNTS FOR AGE AND HUMAN PHYSIOLOGY AND SUNLIGHT.

A LOT OF MODELS DON'T ACCOUNT FOR SUNLIGHT.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ACCOUNT FOR IF PEOPLE CAN'T GET INTO THE SHADE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUNLIGHT AND WIND.

IT'S 110 AND THE BREEZE IS STARTING TO BLOW, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

>> IT HELPS, IF YOU ARE NOT SWEATING, IT HE'S THE YOU UP QUICKER.

IN VERY DRY HEAT CAN YOU PUT WATER ON YOUR SKIN AND YOU'LL BE OKAY.

IF YOU USE A FAN IN THE SUPER DRY HEAT, YOU ARE CREATING A CONVECTIVE OVEN.

TED: IF YOU ARE OUT IN THE SUN, 110 IN THE SHADE, 110 IN THE SUN, WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME.

>> YOU CAN LOWER YOUR TOTAL HEAT LOAD BY 30 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT.

TED: WHAT SHOULD CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES, COUNTRIES, WHAT SHOULD WE TAKE FROM THE RESEARCH?

>> I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE MESSAGE TO PEOPLE AND NOT JUST SAY YOU'RE A VULNERABLE POPULATION BUT WHY YOU'RE VULNERABLE AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT?

PEOPLE DON'T SEE THEMSELVES AS VULNERABLE.

BY SAYING YOU'RE NOT SWEATING AS MUCH BECAUSE YOU'RE OLDER OR A CHILD DOESN'T SWEAT AS MUCH AS AN ADULT, THEY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE VULNERABLE AND WHAT THEY CAN DO, BY ADDING SWEAT TO THE SKIN, SEEKING COOLING SOONER, BY SEEKING SHADING SOONER, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS, AND I'M HEARING A LOT AROUND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EUROPE.

THEY ARE FINALLY ACCEPTING THEY MAY NEED TO GET MORE INTERCOOLING TO SURVIVE THE HEATWAVES ESPECIALLY FOR AGEING POPULATION.

TED: YEAH, BEFORE YOU GO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON RESOLVE TO SOLVE?

>> I AM COMING OUT AT THE END OF AUGUST WITH MILES O'BRIEN.

TED: YES, YES, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THIS IS RESOLVE TO SOLVE.

>> THAT'S IT.

WE GOT TO TOUR A PHOENIX PLAYGROUND AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT TEMPERATURES AND HOW TO MITIGATE EXTREME HEAT.

TED: VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

GREAT INFORMATION, GREAT TO KNOW ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

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TED: SMOKE ALARMS HAVE LONG BEEN A CRUCIAL PART OF HOME SAFETY, BUT A NEW DEVICE MAKES IT EASIER TO LOCATE PETS IN A FIRE.

THE ARIZONA BURN FOUNDATION PARTNERED WITH A COMPANY CALLED RESCUE RETRIEVER TO DESIGN A SMOKE ALARM SPECIFICALLY FOR GUIDING FIREFIGHTERS TO AN AREA WHERE PESTS ARE MOST LIKELY TO HIDE.

WE LEARN MORE FROM BRETTA NELSON OF THE ARIZONA BURN FOUNDATION AND RYAN TUSSING, FIRE CAPTAIN AND CO-FOUNDER OF RESCUE RETRIEVER.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

INDY ROSE, THANK YOU FOR BEING SUCH A WELL-BEHAVED DOG.

BURN FOUNDATION, THIS IS A SMOKE ALARM PROGRAM YOU ARE EXPANDING.

EXPLAIN PLEASE?

>> WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1967.

IN 2006, STARTED OUR COMMUNITY SMOKE ALARM WALK PROGRAM.

AND SINCE THEN INSTALLED ALMOST 40,000 NO-COST SMOKE ALARMS.

THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILY MEMBERS THAT POTENTIALLY NEED SAVING, SO WE EXPAND TWO DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING SMOKE ALARMS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS AND MAKING SURE OUR INDY ROSE IS PROTECTED.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE BE SOLUTION DRIVEN, PREVENT TRAGEDIES BEFORE THEY HAPPEN, THAT'S WHERE THE RESCUE RETRIEVER SMOKE ALARM COMES INTO PLAY.

NOW THE ENTIRE FAMILY CAN BE PROTECTED.

>> AND CAPTAIN TUSSING, THIS RESCUE RETRIEVER PROGRAM IS YOUR BABY HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU'VE GOT AN ALARM RIGHT THERE.

THE IDEA IS WHAT, TO PUT THE ALARM WHERE THE ANIMAL HIDES?

WHAT?

>> AFTER 22 YEARS IN THE FIRE SERVICE, YOU LEARN THINGS, EXPERIENCE THINGS.

ONE GAP IN THE FIRE SERVICE IS, OKAY, WE'RE GOING SEARCH AND RESCUE, WE GET THERE, AND WHAT'S CRITICAL IS CARRY OUT TOO MANY PETS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FIND THEM FAST ENOUGH.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE BAD AT IT, WE'RE RESCUING PETS ALL THE TIME.

IT'S A TIMING THING.

WHEN WE GET, THERE THERE'S A DPAP WE DON'T KNOW THE FAMILY HAS A PET, HOW MANY AND WHERE THEY HIDE.

USUALLY PETS HIDE.

THIS OCCURRED IN 2020, BIG HOUSE, AND SEARCH AND RESCUE, I FOUND A GREAT DANE NEXT TO ITS CRATE AND WE DIDN'T FIND IT FAST ENOUGH.

I NEED THE HELP OF THE RESIDENTS, THE PET OWNERS THEMSELVES.

I CO FOUNDED WITH MY TWIN BROTHER, WE'RE VALLEY NATIVES, BUT RESCUE RETRIEVER IS A SMOKE DETECTOR AND UP TO THE PET'S OWNER, YOU PLACE THIS WHERE THEY WILL HIDE, IT'S UP TO YOU TO LEARN YOUR PET AND WHERE THEY HIDE, AND IT'S A SIMPLE THING CAN, GO ON CRATES, BUT WE HAVE TO RESCUE THEM OUT OF THE CRATES, WE HAVE TO FIND THEM.

AT THE FRONT DOOR, IT'S A SAFETY SYSTEM.

THE PET ALERT STICKER, I MADE IT REFLECTIVE SO IT SHINES OFF TRUCK LIGHTS BECAUSE FIREFIGHTERS MASK UP AT DOOR.

TED: AND OBVIOUSLY, LOSING PETS IS TERRIBLE, FOR ALL INVOLVED HERE, BUT FOR YOU, FOR SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE HOUSE AND THEY'RE OKAY, THEY REALIZE THEIR PET'S BACK IN THERE AND SOME PEOPLE RUSH BACK IN, DON'T THEY?

>> THEY DO.

UNFORTUNATELY IT DOES HAPPEN.

MOST PET OWNERS ARE FAMILY MEMBERS TO THEM.

WHEN PETS FOR A CRISIS LIKE THAT, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, JUST LIKE A LITTLE KID.

UNLESS YOU DO SAFETY PROGRAMS AND THEY KNOW HOME ESCAPE PROGRAMS, PETS STAY, THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO THE DEN.

99% DNA FROM WOLVES.

THEY GO TO THE SAFE SPOT WHEN THEY'RE SCARED, LIGHTNING STORMS, WHERE ARE THEY AT WHEN THEY'RE NOT WITH YOU.

TED: YEAH, THE BURN FOUNDATION, AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE IS SO MANY PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE, HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS ONE?

THIS SEEMS LIKE A BIGY?

>> THIS ONE IS A BIGGIE.

IT'S CRITICAL.

YOU USED TO SEE BACK IN THE DAYS OF HURRICANE KATRINA AND DISASTERS PEOPLE WILL NOT LEAVE PETS BEHIND.

WHEN WE GO ON THE COMMUNITY SMOKE ALARMS, PEOPLE CARRY THEIR DOGS WITH THEM.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS GET OUT OF THE HOMES AND NOT STAYING BACK WITH THEIR PETS.

I WOULD PROBABLY GO DOWN WITH MY HOUSE BECAUSE I'M NOT LEAVING INDY BEHIND.

NOW I HAVE ONE IN THE CLOSET, SHE SLEEPS IN THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHY, IT'S A LITTLE PEACE OF MIND IS WHAT IT IS?

>> WHAT ABOUT CATS?

YOU KNOW WHAT A CAT DOES?

>> THE CAT PEOPLE REACH OUT.

CATS AND FIRES AND OTHER FIREFIGHTERS AGREE, THEY WILL BOLT OUT THE DOOR OR THEY'RE GOOD HIDEERS, THEY'LL STAY WITH THE OWNERS IF THEY'RE TRAPPED BUT DOGS, THEY WILL NEVER, THEY WILL STAY WITH YOU, THEY WILL GO DOWN WITH YOU.

YOU ARE THEIR ONLY FRIEND.

TED: OTHER PETS, HAMSTERS, YOU CAN PUT THAT STICKER IN THE FRONT DOOR FOR THEM TOO, RIGHT?

>> WE HAVE REPTILE PEOPLE REACHING OUT.

WE RESCUED SNAKES IN FIRES WHERE I WORK, AND IT WAS THE ACTUAL HEATING UNIT THAT CAUGHT FIRE, AND YOU THINK, WHY WOULD YOU RESCUE A SNAKE?

THE SNAKE IS $14,000, AND HE BREEDS THE SNAKES, THAT'S HIS JOB.

SO WHAT DO YOU NEED OUT OF THERE?

TELL US WHERE IT'S AT.

TED: YOU WERE TELLING US BEFOREHAND, THIS PROGRAM EXPANDED.

PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD WANT THESE THINGS?

>> YEAH, IT TOOK ONE, WHEN WE FINALLY GOT THE PROTOTYPE, I HELD IT LIKE THIS AND SHINED IT LIKE THIS, WHEN I TESTED IT.

TED: WOW, HOLD IT UP HIGHER.

DO THE SAME THING.

>> WE HAD OVER A MILLION VIEWS OFF OF SOCIAL MEDIA, AND EVERYBODY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

WE MADE IT A PAW SHAPE.

>> AND IT DOESN'T MAKE NOISE.

PETS ARE GOING TO BE SCARED.

>> IT'S A SUPPLEMENT TO WHAT THE BURN FOUNDATION DOES, WE WANT YOU OUT OF THE HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S WITH YOUR PET OR NOT.

IF THEY ARE IN THERE, RESCUE RETRIEVER, YOU ARE TELLING US WHERE TO GO.

TED: WHERE CAN WE LEARN MORE?

>> AZBURN.ORG OR RESCUE RETRIEVERS WEBSITE, THERE IS A PROMO CODE FOR PEOPLE TO GET A DISCOUNT AND THE PROCEEDS GO BACK TO THE BURN FOUNDATION.

TED: VERY GOOD.

BRETTA NELSON, CAPTAIN TUSSING, THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND INDY ROSE, WHAT A GOOD GIRL.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE, GREAT PROGRAM.

>> THANK YOU.

TED: THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.